After connecting my Venue Pro to the Zune player to sync some media files, I was prompted to apply the February update. Turns out both the Dell Venue Pro and HTC HD7 for T-Mobile USA have began receiving official updates. It’s not the NoDo update, but it’s a start.

Estimated update time was 20 minutes but for me it was finished in about 5. I encountered no problems, and none were reported from other HD7 or Venue Pro owners on XDA so far either. So you should have little to fear from hitting the update button as soon as you see it.

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  1. Hey congratulations guys! Yeehaw.

    So what’s the reason that the update needs to be relayed through a computer of certain specs with certain software installed on one of two operating systems rather than just being an OTA thing?

    Wonder what percentage of WP7 owners will have fired this up in the next few weeks. At least 1% maybe? The greater the deviation between that number over time and 100%, would one refer to that as WP7 fragmentation? And if that number fails to rise nearly as fast as, say, Froyo and other Androids’ adoptions did, would a concession from you people be in order? Or is that an absurd notion.


  2. Ahh completely forgot about future pre-loaded devices helping adoption. So factoring that in over the next two months (two weeks is ridiculously too short for something like this), I’ll nudge that estimate to … >1%

    Part of the reason I asked is that I’ve been on the receiving end of this fragmentation bullshit for a long time so then when it occurs to me, wait a minute, this will only be installed by “power” users for the most part, people who go to phone blogs plus a few casual users maybe, as for the update to happen, the updater must install something that I’m guessing is like iTunes. Now people do install iTunes, but they generally have other reasons to install iTunes, like downloading the Beatles or whatever, than just updating firmware. It strikes me as a huge barrier which means that there will shortly be a chasm between NoDo phones and no-NoDo phones. If the changes in the update are as grand as all this build-up time and hype might suggest (changes that third party app developers would have to take into account) and if less than, say, two fifths of Windows Phone phones in consumers’ pockets are running this in the next four months, which we both know will happen, well your horse just suddenly dropped down a few feet. Wanted to run it by you to make sure I wasn’t missing anything other than there are a lot more than five different Android phones.

    Hey by the way, regarding that, let’s say Microsoft opened up the source for free use by anyone with restrictions as loose (not absent, they do exist) as Google’s, in a year or two or three do you think Windows Phone would have a similar looking page to the way this one looks now? Of course not.

    Why not?

  3. @Doug Simmons:

    Feigned enthusiasm, necessary?

    I don’t know if you’re trying to be critical of the updating process or trying to make it out to be something cumbersome but for whatever it’s worth, I updated my on a 2 year old netbook. Every copy of software needs “certain specs” for it to properly fire. What is it you’re getting at exactly? Why wasn’t it flat OTA? *Shrugs shoulders* I have no clue. Most things over 25 MB have to be transfered via USB or WiFi so should I be concerned about an update requiring the same thing?

    Goodness, you reached on that last paragraph, and you reached hard. 1%? Really? I know you’re not being serious about that but 1%? Let’s for a moment stop and reflect and/or question a few things.

    -The US wasn’t the first country to get even the pre-NoDo update.
    -There are DVP’s and HTC Arrive’s that already come preloaded with NoDo.
    -The HD7S will only come with NoDo Installed.
    -Holding MS to their word, the schedule for these rolling updates should continue through April meaning every available device on the market will have the update available to them by May. When is the Milestone/Droid getting Gingerbread? How about the Transform? Want me to go a little newer? OK, how about the Droid Pro? Where’s Gingerbread for that?

    I’ve never been one to rag on Android for fragmentation, especially considering that Apple friggin promised the world when the iPhone 3G came out, about how you won’t need to buy the latest hardware to stay within the iPhone OS ecosystem and then changed their tune blatantly with the 3G S came out. With that being said, lets be honest about device updates here. People wouldn’t make fun of/wholeheartedly believe that it’s a serious issue with Android if there wasn’t a lick of truth there.

    With all that being said, Maybe I should start fighting fire with fire…

    Yeesh, the way you talk about WP7 possible fragmentation problems, it makes me feel like Android, being the superior OS wouldn’t have any problems at all with fragmentation with the OS or displays or chipset. Wait a minute… Scratch that…Well it’s not like only one Android phone can run a specific apps like Netflix or something, which is available on all the lowly WP7 devices and even the damn Nintendo 3DS….whoa, wait a minute…Scratch that too…Well at least you don’t need separate apps for Android devices with different screen resolutions, like QVGA or worse yet, have Apps hidden from you in the Market because your device can’t support it….Damn it, Wait a minute…scratch that too…Uh, lemme get back to you on this one.

    Welcome back, you smug bastard…

  4. @Doug Simmons:

    Let me tackle this one backward. Being that you had a Fuse, and that you have been on Windows Mobile Sites for a long time, we do not need to get into what a real device comparison list would look like open or closed platform. I mean XDA used to just be flooded with ’em, come on.

    In answering that question, The OHA (just look at all their members, damn) and an open platform in general will always outproduce anything else in terms of shear number of devices but what’s managing those devices? What guiding principle is there? Just being open? That’s why fragmentation bothers people. It’s not the amount of models/devices. It’s the inability for everyone to have the same experience even though they may have bought phones that came out 3 months ago. Again, I’m not foolish enough to bash Android on that outright but, at this stage, it’s a bit of a problem.

    Next point, having an update available but not actually downloading it is a STARK difference from not having the update available to you because of your phone model. That’s not comparing Apples to Oranges, that’s comparing Dolly Parton to a pre-pubescent Korean Girl.

    If you think that the Zune Software is a lot like iTunes (which I hate), you’re wrong but I can see where that mistake could easily be made. (Two things come to mind: 1) I didn’t need to connect to Zune when I put the battery in the phone after I got it; 2) Can you say WiFi Sync?)

    The greater than symbol warms my heart. Thank you.

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