MobilityLeaks: Oh, Snap View!
Doug Simmons: Microsoft just lowered its minimum tablet res to 1024×768, which breaks W8’s “snap view” capabilities, in a pathetic attempt to get some OEM love.
Matt Anderson: I’ve asked this before and ill ask it again. What in the fuck do you need higher resolution screens on 7 and 10″ screens? Do you have super human, nay God like eye sight where you can somehow actually differentiate the resolution at this level or do you just use your tablet pressed firmly against your eyeball? Resolution still falls under the jurisdiction of diminishing returns. My 10″ surface with 
1366×768 or 720p resolution blows away any 1080p res tablets I’ve seen. There are dozens of things beyond screen res that account for perceived image quality. Contrast, color depth, color accuracy, refresh rate, pixel shift, etc. Stop harping on this one number like its the be all end all of fucking screen specs. People dont just buy cars because of horse power. You want fucking cup holders, gas mileage, a radio, a seat that doesn’t feel like a judo black belt wailing on your spinal cord after driving for 10 minutes, enough noise reduction material that it doesn’t sound like your driving with your head out the window. So just go ahead and calm the fuck down with your disbelief. Damn it! Getting me all fucking worked up before breakfast.
Murani Lewis: I agree. Oddly im going to use the iPhone as an example. The iPhone has long sense been surpassed in resolution and ppi. The iPhone 5 still us regarded as being a superior screen than almost all phones because of other factors. I’ve never had any problems with screen quality and sewing how many people purchase lower-res phones and tablets it clearly isn’t in the top couple things people look for when buying a tablet.
Doug Simmons: Matt, super human vision or genuinely perceived benefits from high pixel density fueling demand of everyone else’s stuff, you have to admit that 188 ppi is a low number and it’s a sorry thing to see Microsoft have to, in part at the cost or some “Snap” functionality I believe, to stoop to it in their minimum to try to generate any OEM interest in making something for them. It underscores how flaccid they are in the mobile arena. Whatever figure they started with was too high, gotta go below average, they apparently felt, with future products relative to old products other people have been selling for a good while, and for a reasonable amount of money. Aren’t we supposed to get better in general over time? Are these going to cost two hundred bucks or closer to eight? Remember the 800×480 Windows Phone maximum, did that do them any favors? Will this? Nope, yet another flop en route from Redmond. Nice car analogy.
David K: It isn’t lack of OEM interest. Microsoft previously would not approve an RT (ARM based) below 10″. They only approved five total ARM tablets in fact and they indicated that they will not have any new releases until the summer. We now see that the timing is linked to Blue. They are making the interface scale better based on size (not just resolution). Sent from my Windows Phone
Matt Anderson: Very similar to those shitty android tablets with no resolution and resistive touch screens?
Doug Simmons: Like the Nexus 7, couple hundred bucks, greater pixel density than Microsoft’s announcement, includes “mobile” basics like a cellular radio and fuck me a GPS receiver, updates on time, an unobjectionable about of free space, apps, good battery life, widely praised and widely purchased? That shitty Android tablet?
Matt Anderson: So you point to one device when the majority of them are shitty and has what market share? In that other category compared to mr iPad.
Doug Simmons: On any given Sunday, Matt, the best hardware available lies on an Android device. And the Android devices in which I have any interest has the name Nexus. I’m the guy who bought the thing that wasn’t grossly overpriced as a failed strategy not to appear shitty. You must be the other guy. In what negative way am I affected by there being more Android running devices than the one that suits me exceptionally well?
Matt Anderson: And the same question stands against your initial retort about shitty windows devices. My surface is bad ass. I could give a shit. I’ve never seen a better screen on a tablet or even a tv, including my room mates 7″ nexus that I have used, played with, and used to play with myself.
Doug Simmons: Matt, I’m glad you’re happy with your piece of shit $1200 screen, but please note that the terrible thing about Hell is that when you’re there you can’t even tell. As you run through this life you love so, you could be there and not even know. But you say, “So what, I’m doing just fine;” the irony is that it’s all in your mind. And that’s why Hell is so vicious and cruel, but you’ll just go on, an oblivious fool. An oblivious fool, Matt. You.
Matt Anderson: Do what now? 700$ actually, and how does having the best screen equate to shit? Im not sure what you’re getting at in your William Blake’ish monologue concerning hell and oblivion. Did you find my giganug?
Doug Simmons: That was Poe by the way, Burlington. And what’s with “700$” you eurotrash wannabe..
Matt Anderson: Or Phish lyrics. Stoner.
David K: you ladies are talking about tablet size without anyone making a penis size joke? Shame on both of you
Ram: LoL. Look who is talking, Simmons the Microsoft Guru. The leaked builds state the otherwise. There will be support for SnapView that supports 50/50 (lower resolution devices) and 4 apps in a SnapView (higher resolution devices)
Doug Simmons: Bottom line Ram, Microsoft wants people to build hardware running their software, they are sweetening the deal to entice them by lowering standards not only to underwhelming levels but to the point where it breaks certain functionality, functionality that is important enough that as a condition of going with such low res OEMs must state clearly, like a cigarette cancer warning, that W8’s functionality is castrated. And while your English may be a tad rough around the edges, I have no doubt you know what that word means. Snap? In your case, snip.
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@Doug Simmons, it looks like it may be castrated for a while, but once Blue hits the road, and these devices get updated to Blue. Then they don’t seem to be castrated. If you think in that way, every iteration of major iOS release, older iPhones and iPads get castrated. Good example lack of Siri on iPhone 4 and iPad 2 and any half minded techie knows that that could be easily implemented. But here in Windows 8 or Windows RT tablets with lesser resolution, if it is the only case you think of castration, could get the SnapView back with Blue updates.
That’s all you people seem to say year after year after year, this “just you wait” bullshit. People do that with the same degree of intensity about the apocalypse too, for millenia. Still waiting on that one too.
They call it Snap I think, not SnapView.
Which is obviously better than having a lousy system that runs in Beta Mode forever and keep the buyers in beta mode forever and once they get used to it kill it silently. Probably your Google should patent that process.
Microsoft kills products and services too, you just don’t hear about that so much because the world is indifferent or even happy about it (IE6, Windows XP), also because they don’t garner popularity, they’re “embracements and extensions” of competitors’ products (Bing’s street view for example, also Bing itself), and because Microsoft is much, much less prolific than Google in coming up with ideas and executing them.
I don’t like Google Reader being killed, I suspect I’ll get over it. I really didn’t like Google Buzz getting killed, it let me do this for example — http://mobilitydigest.com/rip-google-cn/ — but I got over it. Google Wave? Never tried it. I don’t like Google sending us less and less traffic over time of course, but if it’s Google changing their math and not us changing, my guess is the net benefit is in the consumers’ favor, a better web searching system, directing them where they want to go. For example sites with less Otterbox press release copypasta saturation.
Microsoft moves in slow motion most of the time, Google does not, perhaps that is why there is so much more demand to own a piece of Google than there is to own Microsoft relative to their respective earnings. You get no surprises with Microsoft. Google, you get surprises, not all of them happy surprises; but as is evident in their earnings, more good than bad.
And perhaps that is among the reasons why Windows is such a toxic brand that is hurting Windows Phone. I am dumbfounded why they didn’t name it something else. Like Mango. That was good. Maybe they can call this Windows Blue thing just Blue and roll with it: “Oh thanks, it runs Blue, it’s pretty sweet.” I heard that there aren’t even actual windows anymore in Windows 8, is that true?
If you’re interested in keeping abreast with patents and such, I recommend Google’s Patent Search, http://google.com/patents which is actually quite fabulous.
Yes, I agree, google has more patents than anyone in the industry, that includes Big Blue because they steal everyones IP and adds that to theri list. Things get improved and that is evolution. Like XP evolved into Vista to 7 to 8 and IE 6 to 7 to 8 to 9 to 10 and in future 11. Don’t mix evolution over keeping things in beta forever.
For your information here is the list of Microsoft Patents, http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/patents/default.aspx if you think Patents are great.
Microsoft moves slow and if you think it is laughable, look at this way, instead of running fast and loose halfway through, keep the pace stead and win at the end. Now tell which one is better. Do you remember Hare and Tortoise story? Probably you should read it one more time. Not everyone is interested in Google’s shit like fanbois like you do. Keep the Google shit with you and let us work with real business tools instead of some beta tools that live in beta mode forever.
Microsoft moves slowly, progress bars move slowly, so isn’t it fitting that Microsoft actually owns the patent on the progress bar — and uses that very patent to stifle progress with companies trying to work with Android. That’s actually true.
http://www.google.com/patents/US6339780?dq=inassignee:%22Microsoft+Corporation%22+6,339,780&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1wBaUc68H7DC4APGsIGYAg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA
This is neither here nor there, but it takes a special sort of douchebag to write fanboi versus the already-limpwristed insult fanboy. Pick that up on WMPU?
Well we both agree on one thing, i.e. WMPU is a douchebag site. Microsoft is not stifling companies that use Android, they are in fact encouraging them, because Microsoft gets more pie than some other companies that use Android. And it is Apple, that stifles by not letting companies sell. Also Google or Motorola or whatever you pick, lost case with Microsoft. Poor Google, wanted to make billions out of Xbox with a Motorola’s stupid patent, and we all know how it went flat, http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-22/microsoft-wins-ruling-in-xbox-case-brought-by-google-s-motorola.html. Google’s 12 billion $ investment in Motorola went flat tire with that just one stroke. And it had given a heat stroke to fanboys like you to rant about Microsoft. In my native dialect we have a special word for that kind of rant, “Sandhi Prelapana”, i.e, whenever you get a lightheadedness because of some unknown accident, you talk crazy things. Your pick on SnapView is just one of that. Thanks for the laugh though, it made to laugh out loudly.