MobilityLeaks: Piracy Okay on Android”

I guess you don’t want to zoom in to the operating system level (me neither) so how about this: Which company has made more people throughout the world wealthier (not including employees and shareholders, but normal people), Google or Apple, and by a lot or a little?

Oh what, only musicians count?

I see that you’re a big fan but could you lay off the anecdotal evidence just a notch or two?

Apple, no question, did one hell of a job outweighing for the consumer the freeness of piracy of music with the convenience and simplicity of using their system and handing over their credit card one time to buy, for example, 500 CDs or whatever you bought. No question. How many cars and blue jeans did they sell Murani? None because they aren’t in the blue jeans business and neither is Google (well, unless you consider brokering ads effectively for those industries puts them in those businesses, in which case they would be) nor is Google in the business, yet, of selling music, other than putting Amazon’s app on their Android package.

Apple used iTunes effectively to leverage a healthy app market. Google’s catching up fast.

There’s nothing stopping an iPod owner from torrenting the Beatles discography and dragging it onto iTunes, but people generally don’t do that because A) it’s illegal B) it’s unethical C) most people don’t know how to do it and those who do may find it prohibitively difficult or risky and D) Apple makes it easy (after you spend two hours installing iTunes and handing over your credit card even if you just want to grab the free NYTimes app). And good for them, good for the musicians who benefit, good for the consumers who have more music, sorry Tower Records, whoopie.

Check this out, it will blow your mind: Blackberry owners and Android owners can sync up their purchased (and pirated) music on their iTunes with their non-Apple phones. My wife, to use my wife as you used yours, used to be one of them. So statistically 100% of wives use iTunes legitimately whether they own an iPhone 4 or a Nexus S. I don’t fully understand what it is you think there is in the souls of people who thought they’d get one particular AT&T phone versus either another AT&T phone or a Google phone from AT&T or anywhere else that makes them innately want to steal.

With regard to saying what I will about iPhone users and economic forces, while iTunes sells a lot of Cee-lo tracks, a couple more than the Amazon MP3 store I bet,

So how come Apple doesn’t take a bigger swing at piracy by preventing mp3s from being dragged and dropped, why not force everything through iTunes? I’m also curious what your take is on the Google user base to grow faster than Apple’s, curious what you’ll be saying about app purchasing when Google’s market is bigger than Apple’s.

So all this music that Apple sells: Think any of those CDs were sold as a result of promotion by the record labels and musicians using Youtube or Google? Not that big a roll probably but one people in that industry wouldn’t want to go away I’d bet. But here’s the thing: Whether it’s CDs, DVDs, bicycles, website traffic, bakeries, Amtrak … Google makes its money by helping whoever makes and sells pretty much everything make money and in the process helps people who one way or another have an Internet audience make money too in exchange for a cut of that money. That’s what they do and they do it quite well, better than anyone, ever. I bet you five pirated CDs that a whole lot of that mountain of money between everybody involved was used to buy iTunes music, sometimes while eating a donut bought at a local bakery someone spotted on a Google Maps Mobile advertisement, one of those location-aware ones.

Hey Murani, did you know that Apple spends millions a year advertising on Google? Why would they do that if they’ve built up their own iTunes army?

Man you don’t know shit from Shynola.

FarTed: I never told you this but I’m pretty good at guitar. If someone bugged my apartment and made a mono mp3 of me jamming and sold it I’d go apeshit. I don’t know where you think you saw me rationalizing piracy, particularly given the efforts I’ve made on this site to do the opposite, but you mistook that for the exact point you made later on.

That reminds me, I had recent occasion to go on the iTunes App Market to install the NYTimes app for some old lady. No wait, I had a need to go there to buy the thing but I couldn’t. Had to apologize and tell her that the next session I’d bring a computer in order to install something to let her read the Times on her new iPad.

A few months later I discovered this. No wires needed, no software, no quicktime, just load the site and sign in with your gmail account. You can even trigger installations from the website on a computer.

Or you can just use the app market thing on the phone.

But Murani’s right, either based on his research, his gut or his sense of humor that I and my other Android buddies are nonetheless “scrooges that take pride in not paying for goods and services.” Goods and services, meaning not just things you get on the iTunes, but electricity, cable and your actual television. We either steal that shit or we’re Amish. And that’s because we bought a different phone than he did.

What a load of horseshit. Thought that was mostly contained to WMPU, such loads of horseshit. Fucking iTunes, I’d rather get ten viruses than have to install that again, bet you I could clean them all out faster (and not have to uninstall all of my stolen porn just to free up almost a gig in order to get infected).

… because if so, strap that bike helmet extra tight because you know what thing, they say, pride precedes.

Google rules by the way.

and lol at the definition I just found for “price point”

n., bullshit speak for “price”, in common use by real estate industry “professionals” to emphasize a limited vocablary

And that’s without “multiple” included.

First time I’ve heard someone say that Android is a constantly growing attack on the economy. I’m going to need some time to digest that one.

Roughly the amount of time I’d need to spend imaging someone spending 20% (pretax?) of their income on CDs or iTunes.

I still don’t get where you’re seeing this parade of exclusively-Android hippy pirates cheering for each other and playing grabass while living either off the grid or underground and pissing on the hearts and souls of your entrepreneurs. To quote Kramer, “Frankly it sounds made-up.”

So this is where you’re basing your declaration that Android users, very uniquely disproportionately to users of anything else (iphone in particular), are thieves? Your coworkers, you and your wife?